Tying the knot that’s hard to undo
{It’s not in depth, it’s not meant to offend any married people and I have never had a divorce or been married so this is totally from my inexperienced, jumped-up perspective.}
(Plus, a lot of it is still really un-edited because I’m lazy and I should go to bed so you’re just gonna get an idea of how my mind works while I’m standing in a cold off-licence staring at drink I can’t drink)
Marriage counsellors – think about how weird that concept is. Marriage is a completely man-made concept and is unnatural; animals don’t get married, even ones that mate for life, and its unnatural to expect or force someone to stay with you until you die. Either you work well together or you don’t, or you do for a while and then you don’t, or you do forever, whatever, but it’s okay if you don’t…
But it becomes not okay when you have to involve outside parties such as solicitors and courts and counsellors and money. Your relationship should be a private place really. That’s how I’d want to conduct mine at least.
The idea that people need counselling to help them stay together… counselling or convincing, or bending, or reminding..what’s the difference. Do both partners ever really want to go to those things? Isn’t one of them usually too gutless to say what they really want so they have to go and sit in front of a stranger who spends an hour stating the obvious at them? “So you have a communication problem, that’s why you’re here” is what it could all be reduced to instead of “he never talks to me” or “she never gives me space.” Surely they need individual therapy to help them understand what they want out of life and to help them or enable them to communicate more openly with their partners about what it is they want, and then see if its compatible or if they want to grow together or compromise, and if not agree that it would be healthier if they went their separate ways for now and maybe come back to each other when they’ve been out and explored themselves as individuals, before they commit to forcing themselves into a partnership where they need a third party to help them talk to each other about what they want out of a relationship and fucking pay them for it.
It seems like divorces mean break ups become even messier than they are on their own and the very fact that divorce and marriage exists in the first place makes splitting up so much harder than it makes sense to; it makes a big deal of it when in actual fact its normal to fall out of love with someone for a myriad of reasons.
You cannot own anyone. You cannot hold onto anyone. We just come into each others lives when we are ready and leave when we are ready, we shouldn’t be made to feel like a criminal for wanting or needing to do that because its a wonderful thing, life is fluid. The SNAILS. Patricia Highsmith – the woman who wrote The Talented Mr Ripley (Which is a film I didn’t particularly enjoy to be honest, but I’ve never read the book) used to keep snails in her handbag and take them to parties because they reminded her of “the fluidity and hermaphroditic nature of life” i mean I’m not really going on about gender here but the fluidity thing reminded me of her.. plus i just think this is weird and cool enough to mention.
Anyway, a legally binding relationship, one that isn’t based on business or property or land or possessions, but love. And feelings? And emotions? And the ever changing nature of the self? What an absurd concept! Human beings’ feelings are so unpredictable that you can’t tie yourself to a contract of love or commitment or behaviour and feeling, in the same way that you would to a job or a mortgage, (even those things are volatile) that’s not how life actually works.
It discourages people from being honest. There are plenty of kids who would have a happier home life if their parents could or just would split up and live as separate happy individual parents, with or without new partners and with their own lives. This would show the child how happiness is possible, when you don’t force yourself into a box you can’t crawl out of without breaking all your limbs and other peoples limbs in the process. I know divorce isn’t always that bad but why should it even exist? Because marriage exists, why does that exist?
It’s not that I have a problem with the union of two people… or monogamy, and I’m not saying I think it’s wrong for people to stay together forever and I’ve seen people who met at 15 and are still happy 50 odd years later. Just the nature of the union. I haven’t brought bringing religion into this either because that would make it even more complicated, the closest experience I have of marriage is my parents and they didn’t marry before the eyes of God, they ran away and did it in secret with me in tow.
ANYWAY.
You should only promise to love someone for as long as you do and to always be honest about how you feel. There is nothing else required or in my opinion possible for a true relationship. Then little girls wouldn’t grow up with the false idea that someone will come along and look after them forever, or be at your side til you die… so that they can start developing ideas of freedom and individuality and the confidence that they don’t need a relationship to be happy, that they can make themselves happy and pursue their own ideas without guilt or the nagging feeling that surely in order to be complete as a person they need to be in a fucking relationship with a ring on their finger and a 10 year fucking plan.
March 27, 2009 at 3:49 pm
yes, Ms Rowan, I totally agree.
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May 13, 2009 at 7:40 pm
I think you are talking a lot of sense here are few ideas that cropped up when I read.
Marriage guidance… hard to explain but it does work, sometimes you just need someone else to put things in perspective. In my case it was “so what you’re saying is this and that makes him think x and what he’s saying is y which makes you think a. That was all it took to save my marriage but though my husband and I are intelligent, articulate human beings that one statement was like scales falling from the eyes… for both of us! Then again, I knew I could happily spend the rest of my life with Mr BC and the only time I was tempted, all I could think was how much I wanted to talk to Mr BC about what I was going through.
At the same time, unhappy people damage other people – especially their kids. Nobody should stay together if they are unhappy, they will just be bitter and twisted. People change but you’d be amazed how many people do get married to people they’re not sure are for them, thinking that everything will be ok.
It’s a question of wise choice. Nobody needs to get married but if you do find the right person, you will have to work at it and you may well meet another person you could hang out with – most people meet more than one…
Haven’t put all that well but I hope it makes sense… I guess what I mean is go with the flow. If marrying somebody feels right and for you, do it, if it doesn’t it’s a bad idea!
Cheers
BC
May 28, 2009 at 7:29 pm
You did put it well. In a way that I follow well
I feel quite embarrassed about writing this, and as though its quite a childish take on things, if I did it again I’d take out a lot of the anger and swearing and have a more balanced approach. I recently read a memoir (it was only a short book, the word memoir sounds quite grandiose) the guy talked about marriages, who he’d married… who his sisters and brothers and offspring married and how people were affiliated to each other by name and the webs of connection that brought about… and because of that how easy it was to trace lines of people back for years and years. This really pleased me and I actually thought how wonderful it is to take on someone else’s name and become part of something, in a way forging your identity with them and involving yourself in the same history. I know this sounds over the top but still.
I reckon I just have a problem with the legal side of things and the way in which a relationship is put in that weird context… if you just changed your name and had a nice time, and could easily leave when you stopped wanting to make it work, i don’t think I’d have a problem
From what you say I can also see how marriage guidance is good, probably should have figured that out for myself really… I’m glad it worked for you. Go with the flow is good advice indeed
Cheers BC
May 28, 2009 at 7:30 pm
jesus that’s a lot of smily faces. they look less intimidating when they’re not all yellow!